- 2017-09-10 at 16:52 #9869
Comments on Regional assets mapping
- 2017-09-13 at 12:33 #9887
Comments from Scottish Pilot:
App is useable, however, ‘About’ text needs to be revised so it makes sense.
- 2017-09-25 at 13:09 #10052
– It is not possible to select all regions, e.g. Croatian regions are missing. Should be checked: does the app draw on all Eurostat data that it promises to draw on?
– Many variables are missing from the dashboard, e.g. Innovation intensity in manufacturing sector, by sector of technology, Product and process innovative enterprises by NACE Rev. 2 activity and size class. It would be helpful if users could choose variables they would like to include into their analysis from the dashboard itself, rather than pick from a pre-defined existing variety of variables. At present, there are not many variables that can be chosen from in the dashboard. This list should at least be expanded, but a better option would be to let the users chose their own variables from the Eurostat’s database.
– Some categories in the header do not correspond to the actual choice of variables that one can analyse with this app. For example:
o Geography: under this category one can choose between air and maritime transport. However, users may want to analyse a much wider variety of data, such as that available at http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/gisco/geodata/reference-data
o Sectoral structure: the name of this category should be brought in line with Eurostat, on which they are called “business demographic variables”. Similar categories are presented in the “Business characteristics” category, so these two categories should be merged.
– The Eurostat codes of the variables used should be stated clearly and visibly on the website, so that users know which variables they are analysing. That is the case with the app 6.2 (Definition of app and results indicators), but unfortunately not here.
– Category Demography and society – choice of variables looks OK
– Economy and Labour – sometimes it is not clear which variables exactly the app draws on and in which units they are measured. Both of these things should clearly and visibly be stated on the website. For example:
o Employment (15-64) – Empl_15-64: which concept of measurement does this variable use, is it a) resident persons in employment, or b) employment in resident production units (see http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/national-accounts/methodology/european-accounts/employment)? It should also be specified clearly, before one has done an analysis, whether the variable is measured in thousands or in percentage. Both of these things should be clearly underlined and stressed on the website. At the moment (19/9/17), a description of the variable is nowhere to be found, whereas the units of measurement are only visible in the results table
o GDP – is it a nominal or a real GDP, and how exactly is it measured?
o Gross value added – it is nowhere stated in which units it is measured.
– Business characteristics – a category very similar to the “Sectoral structure” category, as it covers business demographic variables. It should hence be merged with “Sectoral structure” category.
– Category “Innovation system” – more variables should be added, such as the ones mentioned above.
– The interface of the app is too simple, and when the result includes many variables, you have to scroll to see all numbers, which is impractical.
– At the moment (11/9/17), the app is seriously flawed: the visualisations (bar charts and line graphs) do not correspond to the data listed in the table when more than one variable is selected. A couple of cases have been tested and flaws detected, especially when filtering by region. Furthermore, the scales on the charts are also strangely defined, and the aesthetics are too basic.
– Due to a number of aforementioned issues the app is currently not very helpful for the users compared to existing statistical platforms (Eurostat, etc.)
- 2017-09-26 at 15:25 #10070
Dear all, thank you for all the above comments. Based on them we have made the following changes:
• We have changed the “About” page context, based on the input we have received from ECCI.
• We have checked again the list of NUTS2 regions and included the missing ones.
• “Sectoral structure” has been renamed into “Structural business statistics”.
• “Business characteristics” has been renamed into “Business demographics”, but not merged, because they refer to different datasets according to Eurostat.
• “Innovation system” all the above-mentioned variables, that could be included in this category, refer to national level. In case you have access to similar data but at a regional (NUTS2) level please send them to us to include them on the list.
• The link you have provided regarding additional data for the “Geography” category does not redirect to any data files (xls or csv). The page contains shapefiles (shp) used for GIS mapping and also other type of files. We can include only data on a csv or xls format available at a NUTS2 level in the application. In case you have any other additional excel files that could be included in this category, please send it to us.
• A full list of variables has been added in the application, including the description of variables, their units of measure and their Eurostat codes.
• Table format: Given the fact that there is a finite space on the screen we have chosen the table dimensions. In case you have seen something similar, but much more elegant and practical to another application, please send us a screenshot to see if it is possible to change the existing format.
• Bugs on visualisations: Please send us some screenshots based on the problems you have detected, so we can define the issues and debug the app.
- 2017-09-28 at 16:56 #10071
Thank you for the corrections to the app and for your comments.
The users should be able to choose variables from the Eurostat’s database that they would like to include into their analysis from the dashboard itself – rather than pick from a pre-defined existing variety of variables. Could you please make changes to the app so as to allow for this? That would be really helpful for policy makers, as some of the regions may want to analyse different variables from the ones already present in the app in a pre-defined way. There are additional data that Eurostat has for the NUTS 2 level, and that are not included in the app, so it would be nice if you could include them.
For example, for the ‘Geography’ tab there are following data that would be beneficial for the users to have in the app:
For example, for the ‘Economy and Labour’ tab there are following data that would be beneficial for the users to have in the app:
For example, for the ‘Demography and Society’ tab there are following data that would be beneficial for the users to have in the app:
As to the table format: any format which would allow users to see the whole table would be helpful. For example Eurostat uses tables such as this one: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=road_go_ta_nace&lang=en.
Re ‘bugs on visualisations’, please find a screenshot attached. The problem is that the labels in the table and on the graph are mixed up, so e.g. the category DepRatio 2010 should have a value of 45,50 in that year, and not 371297, if it is shown correctly in the table. But is it? This has to be checked. Furthermore, the scale on the graph is strangely defined, as the units are not split in 100.000s or so, but seem to be chosen randomly.
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- 2017-09-29 at 13:18 #10073
1. delete point 1 and 2 and renumber, because these activities only get you to the page you are already reading. This merely serves to confuse the reader.
2. don’t use the term “platform” to describe the application – again confusing.
3. Figure 1 is not clear enough and can be improved. the “user’s initial input” is confusing. Don’t think we should be asking for “user input” this is too technical a term and suggests they should bring something to the exercise before they start, rather than get select all of this from the application. Instead we should ask the user to select data for the region in question, over the given time-period and on the basic of available indicators.
Don’t use the term variables, when they have previously been referred to as indicators. The guide also needs to be rewritten as the standard of English language is not what would be expected form a user.
demography and society and economy and labour, don’t seem particularly useful in terms of measuring assets, but instead capturing resources. The structure of business statistics, business demographics and innovations systems are much more useful. the geography option is very limited.
Again are we talking about variables or indicators?
we like the fact you can select multiple “variables” to map your assets, but it would be better if these could select multiple regions to compare this performance against. it would also be good to compare the regions performance against that of the nation-state and also on a trans-national basis.
We appreciate you can carry out a multiple regional asset mapping, but this can only be done by downloading the data for each region manually if you want to analyse more than one variable at the same time. to do this you need to export the data manually into an excel file. This is too time consuming and will put people off carrying out such an asset mapping.
The visualisation results are not as engaging as they need to be. It is difficult to gain any critical insights form the results contained in the graphs. some of the data sets also seems to be expired and therefore don’t offer any up-to-date information on performance (for example; structural business statistics).
Where is the trend analysis in terms of % change per annum?
Another problem can be found in the visualisation of volumes and percentages in the same graphic (for example, this can be seen in the innovation systems variables, where you seem to be comparing the equivalent of fruit with temperature).
- 2017-10-30 at 16:30 #10491
– The data is not available for every region/province.
– Will have to work with filter.
– Relevant for policy makers / academia.
– It is important that the indicators corresponds with the standard EC requirements for the measurement of the innovation – EU2020 indicators, RIS (http://ec.europa.eu/DocsRoom/documents/17884
1. When clicking on the app, you land on the ‘about’-page and not on the actual application. There’s a button at the top that leads you to the app, but it doesn’t really stand out. Could be made clearer.
2. The ‘about’ page is very technical: it uses methodological explanations and technical terminology, something not all stakeholders will be familiar with. Also, the text is too long. Both these things will probably set stakeholders off experimenting with the apps. It can be made a lot more attractive by shortening the text and using intermediaries. The lay-out can be made more attractive too. Are there communication experts involved?
1. Related to the above, regarding the ‘about’ page: it is too long and would be better to clearly include, in one or two sentences, what the app is actually useful for.
2. The platform draws information through Eurostat only. This means not all information and statistics are present: on some regions there’s no information at all or there are huge gaps. This will lead to stakeholders choosing their own or other databases over this one.
1. For our better orientation which apps are ready for use, the button “use the app” could have had different color as button “available soon” – already done
2. The button “use the app” should give you the direct access to the application use not to the about page
3. When on about page, the button “access to application” is colored in yellow which we do understand the purpose behind it, but it looks like that you are on “access to application” page while you’re still on about page
4. “About” page: The logical steps of the application may be a little bit confusing as it gives an impression that the application will also analyse the data given by the application (the word “explanation” in the Step 4. Description and explanation of results.
5. Guide is clear, self-explained and understandable
6. Overall app is easy to use and can quickly provide requested data in a good format
7. Just one quick comment with regards to the application itself – when grouping by variable, more variables can only by chosen from one category… – but that’s might be a question for analysts if that’s comparison is needed (to compare in one chart e.g. demographic and geographic indicators
• The guide makes the application seem harder than it is. One idea is to change the format: background information, steps + requirements (people can be confused because the background info concerns other steps than the description of the application).
• When you click on ‘access to application’ in the header, you have to register again – your log in information is already filled in but you have to log in again. Weirdly, this doesn’t happen when you click the blue button ‘access to application’ on the right side of the screen.
• If more than 3 years selected, the system only displays the figures for the first 3 years.
• The “download”, “show graph” and “insert to report” icons are overlapping the line containing data. See figure 1.
• “My report” function: not possible to delete variable once they have been inserted in the report.
- 2017-11-07 at 12:57 #10580
• The quality of the data is not sufficient to help those involved in RIS3 to acquire the knowledge they need about available infrastructures. We need a clearer classification of those infrastructures;
• We would suggest a more open approach in which users are invited to upload data showing their presence as an infrastructure. To help this process happen, data can be captured by using an online standardised template. To support this uploading of data, we can think about organising a “Registration Day” or other similar open events supported by the use of social media platforms like LinkedIn and ResearchGate. This “Wikipedia” approach can solve the problem generated by the limited number of organisations mapped by Merril;
• Have you considered using 7FP and H2020 data for mapping the infrastructures? This data is open and it can be probably already structured in a way that can be processed without any additional modifications.
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